Friday, July 3, 2009

Peace Like a River Discussion (1st 4 chapters)

I'm going to start with a brief digression:

I once went to a presentation by a well-known librarian about what we librarians call reader's advisory. She was telling us how to help patrons find books that they would like to read. For many people the most important thing about a book is the action, the story line. For others, it's the characters or setting. You have to talk to people to find out why they like a particular title before you can recommend something else. When my husband and I were traveling in Alaska we each bought 2 books to read, planning to trade off during the trip. Jim chose a science fiction work by a famous person whose ideas Jim really liked. Now, I like science fiction too, however the writing in this book was just terrible. Jim is himself an excellent writer and readily acknowledged the issue but, as a physicist, he was most interested in the science of the story.

The language in Peace Like a River is what attracted me to the book. I think it is some of the most beautiful prose I've ever read. I didn't realize that it was the language of a book that was important to me until I read this book and went to this librarian's talk. Therefore, I'm going to start my discussion by looking at the language a little bit.

Enger is able to write a descriptive paragraph that tells me what the setting looks like but also gives me a sense of how the place feels. He's able to do it with a careful choice of word and phrase, yet isn't verbose. I don't get bored reading his descriptions. He also incorporates discussion of language itself into the story through Swede and her writing. I'll have more to say about Swede as a character later, but for now I'm just thinking about her use of language. I like her poetry and what it tells us about her. Enger comments on his own use of language when talking about Swede. Here's an example of that:

Swede opened her mouth and couldn't find a word in it. While loving all things Western, I doubt the facts of horse and saddle had ever occurred to her as real; they were simply poetry, though of the very best kind. Hammerhead roan and dancing bay pony and, now I mention it, Texas stock saddle -- to Swede such phrases just loped along, champing and snorting and kicking up clover. And rightly so: Take away such locutions and who's Sunny Sundown? Just a guy out walking.

Enger doesn't just say, "Swede stood there with her mouth hanging open." He turns that simple phrase into a poetic paragraph. That's why I love this book.

Feel free to talk about anything that caught your eye in this book. I'll talk more about character, setting, etc. in another post on another section. For next time read through "A Boy on a Horse", p. 107 in my edition. Should we read for one or two weeks? Let me know what you prefer.

10 comments:

Istari the Angel said...

I agree with you about the language, and that's something that also draws me to books, as I mentioned while reading Pratchett. I was drawn in by his wit, and Enger is so engaging with his descriptions, it's very much (to me at least) reminiscent of a modern, American Tolkien, describing so poetically and vividly the way characters see the world. Swede intrigues me, and is the kind of child I would love to discuss just about anything with. I love talking to a child who is as intelligent and well-read as that, it gives me hope for the future, when so many kids have the attention span of a gnat due to nothing but TV and video games. But my rant aside, I'm so intrigued by what's going to happen next as far as the story, so close already to the characters, and so entranced by the language that I had to make a conscious effort and pick up another book, one I've read several times, to keep myself from finishing the book. I don't like reading ahead because I tend to spoil in discussion.

As for the time, I finished the first set in only a few days, but I'm a fast reader. I can handle discussion in another week, but I'll be more than willing to wait two weeks if anyone else prefers that.

Kate said...

Debra, I am so glad you recommended this book. It is reminiscent of Harper Lee's To Kill A Mockingbird for me, which I absolutely love. Reading through your opening post, I am thinking what it is about these two books that appeal to me on the same level, and I think it is the characters and the setting. Swede reminds me of Scout (both are highly intelligent young women :) ), and the relationship between these two girls and their brothers draws me. So, perhaps more than characters, it is the relationships that the characters have with one another that I really enjoy reading about, particularly sibling relationships.

The language is just beautiful. I also enjoy how we're constantly addressed by Reuben in the story. I almost feel like I'm in the same room with him, listening as he tells his story to me instead of reading it out of the book in my hand. Just one example out of many that I could pull: "I won't spend too much time on Reverend Johnny because what happened there isn't half as important as what was happening at home. But did you ever go to church and see the minister rise first thing with a trumpet in his hand? That's what the Reverend Johnny did - oh, yes." I can hear his inflection and the tone of his voice just by the casual way in which he addresses me, the reader. I really enjoy this style of story-telling.

I am already halfway through the next reading block, so one week would be just fine for me. In fact, I would prefer it so that I keep the story fresh in my mind. Like Angela, I don't want to read ahead, but it's going to be difficult since I find this book very hard to put down. For the sake of my patience, one week is more than enough time, but I can understand if people need more time. I'll just reread the sections or something. :D

Ruth said...

I'm enjoying this book so much. I also had to make a very conscious effort to not read ahead, like I did with Wee Free Men (sorry again Angela). I'm so excited to keep going now.

I don't think I ever really put my finger on it before, but thanks to you Debra, I think I really appreciate prose. Kate and Angela have already said it better than me, but I just have to agree with them. I also felt like Swede reminded me of Scout. She's seems like such a cool girl. I wish I could meet her. It made me SO MAD when she got abducted. It made me all the more happy(?) when Davy got Finch and Baska. Enger really does a good job of making them despicable.

I enjoy reading about how much admiration Reuben has for his father, who seems like an incredible man. He looks up to his brother so much and is so sweet to Swede. Having said that, I guess I'm a relationships person like Kate.

In all honesty, I would prefer to cut our reading time down to one week, but if we go with two weeks I can do that too.

Ghostlibrarian said...

I'm so glad everyone is enjoying this book. Most people that read it like it, although that was not the case with my own kids.

Funny that I never made the connection between Swede and Scout but I certainly can understand that sentiment now that you mention it. One major difference is who is telling the story. In To Kill a Mockingbird Scout herself is the narrator, if I remember correctly.

The thing about Finch and Baska is that Enger does make them very villainous but they still seem real. I think this is a big challenge for novelists and better writers make their villains bad but not so bad that you don't have some sympathy for them. Admittedly, we don't shed any tears for them, but I still found their deaths rather shocking.

I have to admit that I stopped it where I did because I knew everyone would want to keep reading. I'm fine with 1 week between posts and will post the next one next Friday unless someone finds that too hard.

Istari the Angel said...

This is a new experience for me, as I've never read To Kill a Mockingbird...it's rare that I'm out of the loop on a book everyone else is discussing. Guess I'll have to step it up.

Ruth said...

You've never read To Kill a Mockingbird? Oh my goodness. Do you think you might try to squeeze it in while we're reading this book? It's a really good book, not too long, and a pretty easy read. Of course I guess you could grab the movie, which stars Gregory Peck, and you can't go wrong with Gregory Peck.

Lynnette said...

First - Angela, I echo Ruth in saying you MUST read To Kill a Mockingbird - one of my all time favorites. The movie is wonderful too, but of course the book is better. It's funny some of you made a connection between Swede and Scout - I thought the same thing. I'd love to discuss her character more as the book moves on.

I also agree that language and prose are things that really endear me to a book, and this one is fantastic in that regard. I also love interesting, strongly developed characters and I feel that Enger's writing really does this well. The characters seem very real to me. Reuben himself is another fascinating character I'd love to delve into a little more in our discussions.

I'd love to discuss the next section a week from now because I'm really enjoying it and want to keep moving along. :)

EWatson02 said...

Echoing the To Kill a Mockingbird sentiments a bit. It's TKAM set in the Midwest and from Jem's point of view. I like the conversational tone of the prose, and I like the story. I also liked that the miracles being mentioned weren't told in a "AND THIS IS WHY GOD IS AWESOME" tone, but more of a "did this really happen?" one. You can sense the religiosity, but it's not preachy. And that's the kind of thing I can get behind.

I'm interested to see what happens next.

Ghostlibrarian said...

To Kill a Mockingbird is one of my favorites too. I read the book long after seeing the movie and love both, which is unusual.

Yes, we will discuss characters more as we learn more about them. We can also discuss the religious aspects. I knew that there was plenty of "religion" in this story but had forgotten just how deep it was until I started reading it again.

I'm game for posting a new discussion next Friday but haven't started reading for it yet.

Istari the Angel said...

I do need to read the book, and a lot of my friends, knowing my background with reading, are surprised I haven't read it. I would have read it in school, except that the regular English classes were the ones who read it, and I was in honors English, which had a different curriculum. I dunno that I'll be reading it alongside this book, since I'm in the middle of a handful of books already, but it's on my list, and I'll get to it sooner or later.